What a Gift Podcast

Two friends unwrap ordinary life — the chaos, disappointments, spirals, fresh starts, and weird little joys — and practice receiving it as something that might actually be a gift. We’re not, by nature, the kind of people who look at life’s chaos and chirp, “What a gift!” But maybe we should be. So we’re practicing — one conversation at a time — laughing, and sometimes complaining, our way through the little treats, let-downs, and weird in-between moments that make up life, trying to figure out